Spaniel, you make some good points, BUT ......

1)Its much more like 5 minutes in between shots in temps over 60 deg. which is really not that big a deal. I just bring a couple other guns along to shoot in between.

2) Although I think savage could improve the 10ML in some ways, I dont think TC Icon has leapfroged Savage in the CF dept, in fact I havent heard much positive feedback on the Icon at all, certainly they havent gained the reputation for out of the box accuracy savage has, so I dont see why they would make such a superior smokeless ML.

3) the only leapfrogging TC did to Knight was in marketing , I still feel knights are more accurate than TCs. I see alot of guys haveing a hard time w/ getting encores to group well,and Ive always though TC triggers werent anything to bragg about, but Ive never seen a inaccurate knight.

4) There are ways around the 3rd pillar, like the EZ tool, or just marking the rear action screw to match the stock, but IME Ive never had the POI change cause I loosened the rear action screw.



If Ive given the impression I think TC are not excellent guns that will service 90% of the hunters out there, as good as they need, let me just say again, TC are very good guns, but they ,as well as any other ML, simply cannot do what the Savage does and it baffels me that TC ,knight or remington have not jumped into the smokeless arena yet, but until they do Savage is the ML king!

Now all they need to do is a dime's worth of advertising and promotion for it and it wont be such an enigma.