ORIGINAL: DeerandbearhoG
ORIGINAL: outdoorslover
Simple....TC is the cream of the crop, the cadillac of the MLing world. It is the best gun on the market and is what all MLers are modelled after. They revolutionized the industry and can't be beaten. You may be happy with other brands and there are decent guns elsewhere. As for me, i'm going to stick with what i trust and what has never failed me or caused doubt. Take a chance and buy something else or go with the old reliable brand that has the reputation for a reason. Your choice. To each their own!
I very respectfully take exception to the 1st statement in this post.
The SAVAGE 10ML is the "cream of the crop" and the "caddy" of the ML world. Mabye in the black powder( and BP substittute)world, T/C is at the top(although IMO, its Knight) but Im sorry, there is just no comparison of any conventional "dirt burner"
and the mighty SAVAGE. Its simple, Savage uses smokeless powder, the only production ML that can! This means less powder, less recoil, NO CLEANING whatsoever, and ballistics and accuracy that out perform any conventioal ML, slug gun ,or even most big bore leverguns. If thats not enough, one word , ACCUTRIGGER!
IMVHO foriegn made MLs are basically disposable guns(sorry if that offends anyone) , TC are very good, knight is a little more accurate, and Savage is the ultimate! (production ML)
Then you won't mind me very respectfully taking exception to that
I have spent a lot of time on Doug's Savage Board over the past 2-3 years even though I don't own one (I like to keep informed on the newest technologies). Unless it's pretty cold out or you stay with conservative loads pretty darn close to what our "dirtburners" can do, you have to wait a good 15 minutes between shots for the groups to stay together. That may be OK in the field, but I like to shoot my guns a fair amount and 1 group/hour is NOT acceptable. This is the primary reason I do not own a Savage. Until they formulate sabots that can "'take the heat" or make it easier to shoot sabotless like some guys do, it's an imperfect compromise.
Quality-wise, ballistics/cleaning aside, I don't see a big advantage for Savage over T/C. There are some standard mods done to Savages if you're really serious about them, like the third pillar. They're both solid guns. Note also that the Savage is built on a centerfire platform -- if any other competitor entered the smokeless game they could leapfrog Savage quickly by designing a dedicated platform, kind of like T/C did to Knight in the inline business.