ooops....some people still shoot one. I had one. The trykon will definately kill stuff, but I expected so much more from the apple. Nice AM32 by the way. These AM32's are HUGE to Hoyt this year. And the timing couldn't be better, in a sour economy, then to have the bow everyone is talking about. You will have good resale too; well, as good as it gets in the high end used bow market.