If he is a true idiot, I doubt he is smart enough to learn how to shoot at 2-300yds. with an ultra mag. Of course, he could get lucky and hit the deer, but he still has to make a good shot even with the mag.

That being said, a lot of people when they hear the term " ballistic table" think that they must be having beans for supper, and they don' t have any idea what their rifle is capable of or not capable of.

My only gripe is that some people talk like the 30-30 has to hit squarely broadside on the deer, or it will just riquochet off the thin skinned white-tail and put somebody' s eye out. What they don' t seem to comprehend is that not all hunters are pipeline watchers, and that some actually like to get in the woods on a rub line or travel route and wait for the Bucks who are too smart to step out on an open pipeline in the daytime. In that situation, the 30-30 can easily be a 100% success rate rifle that you can have full confidence in.

C. Davis