I can tell you on ground that is private in 2D most all got skunked. Even the farmers that feed em' got skunked. During bow we saw many shooters and few doe. First wek of gun we saw many many doe and small bucks in the first week, but no shooter bucks. I still have flintlock. I do like the 1 st week buck only. If flintlock turns put the way I think it will, I will be spending my vacation time at camp in flintlock season. We can hunt bow (Xbow BTB, LOL[8D]) and flint for a few days oiin relative peace and quiet.