Tom-the reason I don't and won't buy off ebay is simply because I've never done any business on ebay,don't have a clue who I'm buying from,and don't know how to really check to ensure I won't be getting ripped off. Don't think there's anything stopping somebody from ripping me off except for giving them a black eye on that site/auction. So much for what I know lol. I'll stick with getting scopes,gun parts,etc from companies I've done business with for years. Is it same way on gunbrokers-who knows but I'm not finding out. How is ups antigun? I've been getting guns delivered both to and from me thru them for years with no problems. Neil