I AM SORRY GUYS,BUT I CANNOT BE A PART OF YOUR BASHING OF REM. PRODUCTS BECAUSE OF THE 597 AND 710.COMPETION IN THE FIREARMS BUSINESS HAS GOT TO BE FIERCE.THE REM LINE PROBABLY HAS MORE FIREARMS IN THE FIELD THAN ANY OTHER.IT IS LIKE ZEBCO REELS,I HAVE BEEN BUYING THEM FOR 30 YEARS AND NOW WILL NOT BUY THEM BECAUSE ALL THE 33S I HAVE BOUGHT IN THEN LAST 10 YEARS SRE SO CHEAPLY MADE THEY ARE NO GOOD.HOWEVER,IF THE OLD SAYING OF YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS TRUE,STAY AWAY FROM THE LOW END MODELS THAT ARE SOLD AT MOSSBERG AND SAVAGE PRICES! I DON' T THINK THEY MAKE BETTER GUNS THAN THE 870,1100,1187,3200 OR 700.