I feel for ya Schultzy. Late season is tough. Ill admitt it, im not a good hunter late season Im still seeing Deer but i cant get a pattern on there food source. We have fields and for the likes of cant figure out why we hardly see deer in them, even via spotlight in the late hours. evidently my deer have something else they prefer,in the woods, problem is my woods are hugh and whatever it is, im sure its spread out. If you ever find the holy grail, be sure and share it with your buddy <<<<< ME