don' t get reflex. i had abuddy thad had one. it shot bad we suped it up and the bow still makes alot of noise. and gives off alot of shock vibration.you need to get a browning tornado bow.great lite weight bow. me and my buddy started to shoot browning one year ago they shoot good, quiet,fast, go to there website.but it is you that decides what kinda bow you need. hope info helps