"There is no doubt that this is one of the most accurate black powder bullet I have ever shot threw my Thompson. But when it comes to the time after the shot on a deer there is no blood trail. Between me and my dad we have shot 3 doe with these bullets and found only one, only cause she dropped in her tracts, the other two ran off into cover. Found hair on both but there was no blood trail."
Gut shot deer don't bleed well with anything except a 20mm cannon round. This is what I mean about these reviews.
If we're going to post reviews let's be fair with what is there:
"This is the first bullet that i used in my muzzleloader and this is the only bullet that i will use in my omega because on the second day of the youth season in ohio i shot a spike at 92 yards with this bullet. The bullet hit
him in the heart and there was
blood on the ground before he could even take a step forward, he only went 30 yards and the e
xit hole was the size of a golf ball."
I highly recomend these Sabots! Ive used them for a couple of years now. I took a 170 lb. 8 point whitetail deer this season, and at 70 yards with a
clean lung shot, he dropped in his tracks, they truly deliver a SHOCKWAVE."
"I would recomend both the 250 & 300 Gr Shockwave Sabots. My son recently bagged a 10pt 180# buck with his T/C Endevor 50/209 using 250 Gr.sabot loaded with 150 gr. 777. It preformed well on a shoulder shot at 50 yards. I recently shot a Doe 120 # at 75 yards using my T/C Encore Pro Hunter 50/209 with 300 Gr.sabot loaded with 150gr Pyrodex. Doudle lung shot the deer went 20 Yards. Great preformance , with
large exit hole. Maine"
For every post claiming they don't expand, there are more indicating they do fine. Overall rating is about the same as for the barnes, 4.2 vs 4.3. Perhaps this comes down to expectations? If you are expecting catastrophic destruction, you will be disappointed. I personally like being able to shoot a deer through some meat and not ruin the entire quarter, but if you feel that is how tough your deer is then by all means I agree a Barnes is a better choice though I have personal experience that prevents me from trusting them.
I
don't want to come across as inflammatory Chap, but have you ever personally shot anything with a SW? Or are these reviews the place you are forming your opinion from? The reason I ask is I am willing to go to the trouble of posting pictures of actual SWs used to take game and even go out and specifically take a shot yesterday missing the shoulder so I could post the results and come here and share that and my experiences on over 50 deer taken with the SW. I'm here to ask questions about it and respond with details. Yet you seem much more convinced by third-hand reviews on Cabelas and Bass Pro Shops where we lack details, know nothing about the skill of the hunter, and can't ask for clarification.
If your mind is made up we can agree to respectfully disagree; I'm just curious what formed such a strong opinion for you, I've only been around here a year so perhaps I lack some history or something.