Trust me Rybo, as someone with the private land that is posted, has plots everywhere, and not pressured at all during gun season........the does/dinks move during daylight hours (they don't even do this off our property according to our neighbors), but the 2.5 y/o+ bucks don't. I've never seen a 2.5+ y/o buck that wasn't in heavy cover during daylight at my place outside of the first bow season. As a matter of fact, I've only seen one 2.5+ year old buck during daylight hours after early bow season that wasn't moving from being bumped by a hunter. I don't gun hunt much on this property (maybe one day a season) but it's been 6 years that I've been there, and I do hunt the late archery season hard. I average seeing a 2.5 y/o+ during the early bow season every 2-3 days of hunting, during rifle/late archery seasons I might see 1x 2.5+ y/o buck every other year if I'm lucky and I'm in the middle of the thickest stuff on the property to see them.

When the guns start going off, it's a different game. I know they are there, but this time of year they just don't move unless forced to during daylight........even on the pieces of land that are heavily managed in PA with little to no pressure.