you guys want to talk pressure??? try to hunt after 100 hounds and beagles have been dropped on 5,000 acs or 1500 acs twice a week starting in Nov and see how many deer ya see moving about without them...pressure here comes from dogs pushing deer for 7 weeks straight in most cases 3-6 times a week... so here in Va the gun season is pretty much void of bowhunting...Im talking about the archery season in those states....do the deer move more freely??