if you read my post i agreed that it wasnt good shots to get good bloodtrails thats what i tried to explain to my friend. i was wondering what kind of luck everyone else was havin with the slicktricks i was not planning on changing heads and actually i used to shoot spitfires but changed cause i wonderd what would happen if i hit bone. i agree with you guys 100 percent those types of shots dont produce good trails. just cant explain that to my friend all in all i was wanting opinons on the slick tricks thanx