I understand that lanse. I actuallly live in the country. And the land I hunt is a farm (my dad's). I know that we will probably never have as many deer as the "glory days". But all of the hunters that I have been talking to just want a happy medium. But I also understand it's not that simple. I lived on a farm in one of the most heavily populated management unit in the state when I was a kid. You had to watch for deer all of the time when driving but you just get used to dealing with them on the roads. Kind of becomes a way of life, and that's why we have insurance. The only thing I want is for my son to have the opportunity to see deer like I did when I was starting to hunt 16 yrs ago.