thanks for the insight, I guess I left out that it was a ned jug of 777. I have tried the pellets as well as loose P. I just didnt get groups as good as with the loose 777. I ended up taking it to my local gunsmith and as it turns out the rear scope mount screw had started to strip. the screws were short. it seems they were only a few threads in. longer screws and a retapping job and hopefully it will be back to its old self. also the 777 I was useing was from a new this year jug, and i do seal it with plastic wrap.