yes, i know where the caps lock is not that has anything to do with the discussion. furthermore,the original post spoke of shots of less than 150 yds at deer,not elephant,elk,bear or other large game.anyone using a 416 for deer must be very insecure of their shooting skills.also, anyone that makes the comment that a 30-30 is not adequete for deer either doen' t know anything about deer hunting or just likes to blow hot air!