And a great thread it is! It took me about 3 years of seeing mature bucks to realize I had a major genetics problem as far as brow tines go. Rest of the rack you couldn't ask for better genes. Tall, wide and very massive. I have a 4 1/2 8pt. that nets 139" and some change and only 7" of that is G-1 score. I shot a 3 1/2 out of there in '02 that scored 151 3/8" as a 10pt. His brow tines were only 3" a piece. But, he had great tine lenth a 21" inside spread on both main beams are over 23". This is a very good thread indeed!