You want a good outfitter, call Jarod at Illinois Ohio Valley Trophy Hunts. He is an HNI sponser and has slammer deer on his place. Down to earth, I never saw him drink at all, His whole family is a pleasure to be around, has a ton of land to be around, and some of the best guides I have seen. IF you want to go on another hunt and be satisfied, call him. Here is his website www.trophydeerhunt.com