I think there has been some good points made by Jud and some from the long range guys.I feel hunting is a big sport with a lot of differing styles,driving,dog hunting,still hunting,stand sitting,and combinations of these.Its all hunting just done in differing styles and methods.The long range guys on this post aren' t advocating 1000-1500yd shooting like the 1000yd Williamsport benchrest guys do with 30# plus guns and benchrests sitting along the road shooting from one mountain to another but instead practice long and hard to make their guns and loads work at these above mentioned very realistic distances of up to 500yds.Thats not unreasonable for a well tuned rifle(heck we used to shoot chucks at 400 yds without sandbags or benches and just a bipod or tripod rest and a deers kill zone is about the size of a small chucks entire body or an adult with just his head sticking out of the hole!) They are just as skilled in their ways as the hunter you sneaks up and kills their deer at 20-30yds its just a different practiced and learned skill.We can all argue about who has the moral highground all day but the bottom line is to hunt legally and ethicly, be good at your chosen method,PRACTICE,and use the proper equipment for the job.

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