i know exactly what u are saying....i live in north west ohio and we have a good amount of deer adn the capability of having BIG deer, but the people dont let them mature. I am shur u are as angry as i am and i wish i could help tp change this but idk its almost impossible, although i do my part in deer manigment during bow season. they normaly dont make it threw gun season. so over all ui knwo what your saying, we hav the deer, the right environment, btu the wrong people really.