Its not about getting 15 fps...that was just an extra perk I threw in there that I saw he had done on numerous occasion(because if you go back and read his first post he wanted to break the 270 mark). And since he lives in Missouri he wouldn't have to send his bow away. Hence the reason I recommended Crackers so highly. We will just agree to disagree -- maybe you know more than I do -- I'm sure there are lots of people who are better than Crackers at what he does