thumper ... that was always what I believed too. Its funny because I've sat in stands and watched does bed down in front of me, and they almost all do the same thing.

statjunk ... you must have known my old man. He would always say the same thing when we butchered deer if they had a thick layer of fat. Thick fat.. bad winter. And his other was how high up in the brushes the paper wasps made a nest was an indication of the expected snow depth because they never wanted to be under the snow lines..