Sproulman, I live in Crawford county. Most of my hunting is done on private land that is open to the public but I had one farm I hunt that is closed. Most of my deer sightins were from the open property. I only had 10 total doe in to stands the whole year. I had 3 different buck that were missing guard tines or they would have been legal. I guess sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you!