Ranger, near Willmar. Sproulman, I hear you. Fortunately, around here, most of the lazy hunters like that are carrying shotguns? Or is that fortunate?But during bow season, most everyone I know or hunt with won't go past 30 -40 and the latter end of that range is only under ideal, ideal conditions. Myself again, I won't shoot outside of where - barring any upredictables - I know I wont nail the target.