And right out in the unbostructed open I was with all 3 of these deer. With the doe I just picked a bare trunk tree in the middle of an acorn grove. She had a full open view of me at 30yds and was not alarmed even after I drew. The smaller buck was even closer at half that distance. Worst, or should I say best of all, the mature buck was even closer yet,facing me looking dead at me eye to eye and still allowed me to shoot him!