My son still wears his Cardeer necklace and last Saturday my son killed a doe and a buck. His first buck a 5 pointer. I am real proud of him, years old and he has shot 5 times in two years and has killed 3 deer. 20 gauge Remington Jr. with #2 federal premium buckshot. There are many people here who know a whole lot bout hunting and there a few folks that make for interesting reading. I read and like it all.