I' ve got a pair of them almost in my back yard. I' ve been after them for 4 years now and haven' t come close to getting a good shot. They stomp, snort and jump whether they have a reason to or not. It got so bad last season, that I had them come by me at fifteen steps and I never moved. I figured it was better to leave them alone than to move and have them spook any other deer in the area. I call them bionic does. They hear, smell and see everything. I' ve tried to draw on them a dozen times in the last four years and it just ain' t happenin.