There has been so much negative press here on the site that I thought we needed to look at this some more. I know my " sand box" is not a true indicator of the actual intended target but I think it shows that tese can and do hold up under some pretty severe conditions. My plus points would be, full 50 cal size slug, easy/fast to load on 2nd shot (if it is required) uniform expansion, and great weight retention. The down side would be the cost. I will continue my quest here and post the results of the PB Aero tip bullets as soon as I get the opportunity to get back to the pits, its shaping up to be a very active few months ahead.