Call me crazy RSB, but isn't the whole purpose of going deer hunting to try to kill one??? If not,they call it walking in the woods with a gun which in reality is good exercise but that's about it. Going hunting day after day and year after year without getting one is plenty of reason to give it up.I don't care what you do but if you consistently try it without sucess,almost anyone will become discouraged and quit.As far as road hunting and posted property not being connected,i'll still disagree with road hunters being able to cover far more area in a vehicle in a day than anyone can cover on foot.And if you know of "all this area is almost all public land with it being almost hard to find a posted area " ,please pm me with directions and i'sd gratefully give it a shot cause I sure can't find any.