Last winter when Wall Mart was closing out the archery and hunting stuff, I bought 3 bags of Biologic Full Draw. You' re supposed to plant this stuff in the fall but I planted it this late spring and I can' t believe how big it' s grown. It' s about 24 inches tall and is very thick, deer should be getting all the nutrition they can this time of the year, not in the fall. In the fall season there is lots of waste grain for them to live on in my state and IMO, if they are fed the best early, they' ll do better late