As far as a killing trip or a hunting trip, I didn't go out there just to see the scenery, I wanted to bring some meat home. I know you can't always kill something for it to be a success, I had a good time last year, and met some real good people that I hunted with.

1. We were sitting in the morning for a2 hours, then we made drives for them where a guy who is 66 has hunted this spot for over 2o years with many elk under his belt,bulls and cows. Just3 years ago, this man and his crew counted over 100 elk that they had seen in the3rd season.The friend that I went out with, his brother set us up in here, Oh by the way he was a guide with his father in law in this same spot for many years on horseback with much success in here.
2. nearest highway, we were 7 to 8 miles off the nearest highway.
3. 10,000 to 11,000 ft we were at
4. we hunted a large piece of the gunnison national forest, thereare many acres to hunt there. we didn't drive out of there everyday. That is the area I was talking to DOW about.
5. I have never road hunted, and that includes whitetail hunting!
When I started this thread, I wasn't questioning the integrity of the people of Colorado, because the people I met out there were very nice. THis wasn't wrote to get in a pissing contest with anyone out there either!! I am writing about I would have appreciated the honesty of: Ya If I were you mr. Johnson, this might not be such a good year for you to return to Gunnison for an elk hunt, we had a bad winter kill of mule deer andelkalso, . I saw many huge muleys in this area last year, saw one decent size buck and few does this year. Last year was lousy with them. You aren't talking to a lazy road hunter who shoots at anything they see. I put my time in the woods.I came out to CO. to try and have some luck and as luck have it, the area I hunted has seen a large influx of hunting pressure in just the past 2 years I have been told. We are all just trying to do the same thing.