I knew it had to be your or David, because Jeff and Grant didn't have a problem with the hunt. Grant sent me an email saying that everything was fine. And Jeff got into elk everyday of the hunt... Why you ask??? because he didn't get back to camp until after 10:00 each night. And he had Bivy gear to stay out.

I used the photos to show the country, and to show that you spiked out in blue bird weather. And yet still decided to complain about not being prepared with a sleeping bag. The whole crux of your argument is still the tent situation (which i've taken full responsibility for) and that we didn't scout for elk, which is completely unfounded.

Let me ask you this... Did a herd of elk (around 15-20 head) including a spike bull come within 92 yards of the tent one day??? Simple yes or no answer? And did someone in your group actually go after that spike and make a play on it.

Why is Kirk and Jordan the only one on film talking about a hunt. (Oh yeah, Dennis Pontoni was on there as well) The simple reason, was because I was filming on those hunts. I don't film just random client hunts. That isn't part of our package deal. We can't afford to send a camera man with every hunter.

As far as testimonials, I welcome you to call anyone one of these people listed below. And I will have other testimonials on our website.

Kevin Akers 503-753-2902
Chris Fryman 541-619-1106
Brian Lamvik 503-522-3635
Clyde Stone 503-538-5778
Chad Jackson 503-329-9797
Cameron Hanes [email protected]


I've got alot more. Be my guest call anyone of them. Ask them how they hunted, and if they were successful. So were this year, and some weren't. It is bowhunting my friend.


And about my story being straight. I told you and David to not feel bad, because I know 10 times more of the Eagle Cap than you guys do. And I hunted 10 days longer than you guys did, and I didn't kill anything. My point is, is that you are hunting cagey elk, that move from one basin, or one drainage to another. They can be in one part of the country one day, and split the next. If you want a high fenced elk hunt, maybe you should choose an outfitter who doesn't have "Wilderness Adventures" in their name.



What does Jeff Ellis have to do with your argument, saying that he went to Colorado and killed a bull and an elk. Jeff is a hell of a hunter. And that is a quote from Jordan. If he wants to get into the packing business, he is probably more than capable. A few horses, a National Forest Permit, truck and trailer, he is off to the races. I still don't see what that has to do with anything we are discussing here.


So you can go ahead and say things like "I'm full of crap", or whatever else. I'm trying to discuss the facts on what went on to the best of my knowledge. Not the best place for a discussion. But I haven't heard from you in over a year. So if this is the forum you want to rattle off in, then I'm total game.


You got anything else? Are we going to now resort to personal name calling?