Wow this went from some broadhead problems to a whole different thing...I agree that arrow placement is everything.. I have made the same shot with Wasp Jakhammers and have severed spines cut through ribs etc. It seems the Wasp has better penetration than the rage if you hit anything but flesh... My bigger problem is with someone telling me to send the heads back for a refund because the have a get your game or your money back bla bla bla...If I could find the heads to send back I would have deer in the freezer....Thats just my point. Thank you for all your opinions Good luck to all this season.