well, that big 8 I was telling you guys about came out thursday eve at 145 yards. I took a good steady shot and had pools of blood like I have never seen, but he ran about 50 yards to the main stream of the swamp and never saw him again[:@], I looked for hours and then another 4 on friday. guess I will have to wait for the buzzards unless he sank in the main stream. I would have rathered missed him!!