shot with a peep for about 2 years and did great (tight groups) but i shot with a mathews sq2 and couldn' t get the speed of the arrow past 230 so someone told me to shoot without anything on the string. So i tried it and the out come was 245 (as of last night) my groups are about 4" radius right now. I' m having a tough time finding my anchor point, but I' m going to stick to it and keep trying I believe the benefits are much better without peeps. If anyone can help me with my anchor point i would appreciate the feed back.