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Old 11-06-2008 | 09:13 PM
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Have you no honor at all?

Point out to us just where you got that total nonsense you just posted concerning the 2.5 year old bucksfrom before to after antler restrictions out of those Chronicles.
It is not about having honor, it is simply that we have a difference in opinion and the study supports my opinion, not yours.

Here is the quote from the study.
So what did they find? By the time a white-tailed male reaches 4.5 years of age, there is no difference in
antler measurements regardless of the size of their first set of antlers as a yearling. The study compared
yearlings with ≤3 antler points to those with ≥4 antler points. While all measurements remained smaller
in yearlings with ≤3 antler points at 2.5 and 3.5 years old compared with those with ≥4 antler points, by
the time they reached maturity at 4.5 years old, those differences disappeared. In fact by their third set of
antlers, ≤3 antler point yearlings appeared to be accelerating their antler growth at a faster rate than the ≥4
antler point yearlings.
Before ARs the 1.5 buck that were carried over represented a cross section of the 1.5 buck population. With ARs the vast majority of bucks that are carried over are those bucks that the study shows have a trait for slower antler development. Therefore ,the average 2.5 buck produced by ARs will have a smaller rack than the average buck carried over prior to ARs.

Furthermore, the study did not address the negative effects of harvesting the best buck in each age class. If the best of the 1.5 buck with <3pts. were harvested at 2.5, as they would be in PA and the same thing happened at at 3.5, it is obvious that the results of the study would be quite different and the <3pt. group would have not equaled the <4pt. group.

Here is what you posted in your original post:

The PGC is basically admitting that ARs protect buck that are inferior for the rate of antler development. Therefore, the average buck saved by ARs will have a smaller rack at 2.5 than the average buck carried over before ARs.



That is not what the study showed at all. You are simply once again either misrepresenting the facts with what you posted or you simply can’t comprehend what is being reported.

This study has nothing to do with the bucks before antler restrictions as compared to the bucks since antler restrictions. The results of this study as they relate toall age class ofbucks were just as true before antler restrictions as they are now.

Antler restrictions has had no affect what so ever on the quality of the antlers for the same age class of bucks. What affects the antlers for a particular age class are primarily the nutritional and environmental factors that buck had to deal with in the early stages of life before they have reached mature body weights. Oncebucks have reached full mature body weight, at aboutfour to five years old,then their antlers are more a result of their genetic potential and bucks of the same age can be more fairly evaluated.

Therefore, there was not one single thing in the Deer Chronicles that indicated any change in buck antlers from before to since antler restrictions other then the fact that older bucks have better antlers then the younger bucks have. That was true before antler restrictions and it is still true today with antler restrictions. Nothing has changed other then we have more older bucks then ever before and they have better antlers then the younger bucks that once dominated the buck population.

R.S. Bodenhorn
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