thank everyone one who replied to this subject. i really wasn' t confused on times its just i was going by what was printed in the hunting world mag and it said 5:00 registration. figure on sat. you could start a course at 5:00. i think shut down should be at 5:00, because it gives the people that have to work in the moring alittle more time. also if you start a 10 target course by 5:00 there is no reason you shouldn' t be off by 7:30 at the latest even with back ups. i know it makes for a long day for the members that put on the event but these are big events and along day should be expected.