Also you can learn more from a failure if you know why you failed. A rookie shooter might take a shot maybe he shouldnt have and loose a deer. By asking what he did wrong, or explaining his situation maybe some of the more experienced guys can lend a helping word to him and he wont make that mistake the next time. If he never learns then it will happen over and over. I would rather sit through the countless "OMG I lost another" threads then have that same person wounding deer season after season.