Well, I am not too happy after this 2nd session. I was shooting the same load that I liked from the first time. 90gr Shockeys and 200gr SW's. The last time I shot a 1 1/4" 3 shot group @ 100yds. This time all I only got about a 3" group. I followed the same routine, spit patch and dry patch after every shot. I haven't been happy with how hard the SW's load in my Elite, so I picked up some 250gr SST HS/LD. The definitely loaded easier, but still snug. I think I ended up with about a 3.5" group with those. I did notice that I was getting a little bit of a crud ring with the Shockeys this time out. The spit patch was taking care of it, but I don't remember having that last time. I can't wait to use the rest of the Shockeys up and try some BH209.