I shoot both, two Excaliburs (Vortex and Phoenix) and the Cyclone. They are as different as night and day. Excalburs are simple to maintain. Lifetime warranty and a great company that supports it. They are wider but very consistant and mine have great triggers after I worked them over a bit. Cyclone is like a trophy wife. Great to look at but takes some TLC to keep around. They are fast, mine is 355 fps, and perhaps a bit quieter. Shooting 430 grn arrows it gives me about a 6" drop between 20 and 40 yards. But, it has both string and cables, which seem to need much more maintenance. The quality of the factory strings has been spotty. Every time I think they have it worked out, I hear another story about serving wear and string separation. And, being narrow as they are, they are hard to press for the local shop. Finally made my own hydrolic press to solve the problem. The trigger on this Cyclone isn't nearly as crisp as the other two. I shoot the Ecxals a lot, save the Cyclone mostly for hunting. If I had to choose just one, it would be the Vortex.