I got a little skeptical on my last Doe I shot. I didnt see my arrow, but every thing felt perfect, and she was going down before she got out of the field. I heard her crash, and kick, and silence. Everything you want to here and see. But when I retrieved my arrow, It had chunks of meat on it, That worried my a little, I still "knew" she was down, but waited a couple of hours anyway. She was down as I suspected. Went through both shoulders.