Matt, a good friend of mine bought one (x-force)a few months back (the SS model), anyhow he was over at the house and aswe were setting it up, I really became impressed with that bow. It put up some real good numbers, was real quiet and after shooting it and realizing that it was as dead in the hand as my commander, I was impressed that a bow that small could be that quiet, dead in the hand and fast to boot.....I will be back in the states in a couple weeks and start getting my hands on some of the ones I am interested in .......