went out yesterday eve. to my black powder stand which starts saturday morning here in virginia, just to see what was going on. I took my bow but nothing came close enough. this is an open pasture with about 3 feet tall grass on the edge of a soybean field and thick woods leading to a huge swamp. I have killed 2 wallhangers there the last 2 seasons. saw a big 8 chasing 2 does around and running another nice 8 back to the woods. i think they are real close to being in full rut! CANT WAIT TILL TOMM. MORNINIG!