FINALLY IT TOOK MY 14 YRS. I got my first deer tonight with a bow. I shot a 4pt at 20 yards at 4:55. I will say I was glad I went out even though it was snowing real good and cold out. I'm also very glad I switched to the RAGE 2 Blade. That put a HUGE hole in this deer. I was about a inch back from were I wanted to hit it but the RAGE TORE IT UP. I'll post pics tomorrow.