well i got a doe last night after 3 hunts of not seeing any thing, i would put some pictures but didnt have time to take any. i shot it just below the ear with a .270 at 75 yards it had a hole that i could almost fit my fist into on the other side but i didnt have to go look for it and no meat was wastedit was getting dark anyways and i didnt want to have to go look for it if it ran