i dont like the g 5 montec thay are dull as well u know.. shot 2 8 pointers with them and got terrible blood trails. thank god for 25 years of experience in tracking. both shots were in the boiler room. rage came dull right out of the pack so i wont use them niether. .. nap is a sharp and accurate broad head. thunder head or shockwave and spitfire,, i can not say enough about the need for a sharp broad head..