Once again, thank you to those who haven't beat me with your old bowstring. I was just asking and really don't want a reaction to my definition. I'm too old to really care what people think of me but I do like hearing what standards others set for themselves and the sport I've pretty much dedicated my life to for 40 yrs. now. I give bowhunting seminars, teach "barebow shooting" (Since you can't teach instincts) and speak a scouts, schools and church groups on hunting with the bow. I never preach equipment since I don't believe the average person should attempt to shoot at living game with traditional equipment until they reach a certain level of competancy and it's much easier to hit that level with a compound and sights. I've shot with some of the most well known people in the business and have to say a bunch of them aren't what I call "excellent" shots but they all know their limitations and stick to them. I honestly just wanted to know what others use as their definition of traditional since they chose the non-compound route for some reason. ( I'm really bleeding here!)