Well I prefer to hunt off the ground. I built a seat that straps to a tree so I can basically lean on it instead of sit or stand completely up. My first design of it sucked but it worked pretty well. most of the trees in my area had underbrush and stuff around them. All I would do is clean up some shooting lanes and I was in business. It's quiet and mobile. I aslo have have a climber but does me no good where I am at now. Only cedars and oaks.