First Dan....ya gotta know what sac riding is to define it (your post is a good definition). Second....no...I'm not trying to get a rise out of him. Whena person asks a question in an information seeking thread.....and someone mentions that 8.5x50's are 100X better at low light gathering capabilities than 8x42's....I think a little clarification is in order. I'm also guessing the quality of your glass is a BIG factor in ANY of these optics threads.

In bowhunting situations....I'm not even sure larger is better (in either the magnification of the FOV numbers). Someone mentioned Matt/PA being a pretty good resource on this. I'll defer to him for clarification of what I'm attempting to say.....but "bigger" isn't necessarily better for bowhunting.

Or I may just be too old to understand all the hyperbole you kids rap at each other with these days. Highly plausible.