Wacker I read that , and it never clued in, (good cut and paste)I should have picked up on it, I do have Lovetts books and didn' t remember reading that.

Brokenbucket
I believe you have a good thought aswell,, The nest bumping was in my head. The thing that seems odd is this Tom I seen has been with these same hens all season. I was up close and personal with them on a hunt that they did not want to participate in very well in the season. The hens where only 15 yards from me. but that darn gobbler would not show himself [:@]. I hate it when they won' t play right ! ...BT